Both Republicans and Democrats clash with RFK Jr. on vaccines, CDC turmoil

"We're denying people vaccines," Republican Sen. Bill Cassidy told Kennedy.

Last Updated: September 4, 2025, 5:08 PM EDT

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. faced a grilling before the Senate Finance Committee on Thursday from both Republican and Democratic lawmakers.

Over nearly three hours of questioning, he defended his controversial views on vaccines and the ouster of Susan Monarez as director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Sep 04, 2025, 12:25 PM EDT

Kennedy claims Monarez said she was 'not trustworthy'

In a fiery exchange with Sen. Elizabeth Warren, a Democrat from Massachusetts, Kennedy claimed the recently fired CDC Director Susan Monarez said she was not trustworthy.

Warren pointed to an op-ed Monarez wrote for The Wall Street Journal on Thursday saying she wouldn't prematurely sign off on recommendations from the CDC's vaccine advisory committee.

"I told her that she had to resign because I asked her, 'Are you a trustworthy person?' And she said, 'No,'" Kennedy replied. "If you had an employee who told you they weren't trustworthy, would you ask them to resign, senator?"

Susan Monarez, nominee to be director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, testifies before a Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee confirmation hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington, June 25, 2025.
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Kennedy reiterated the statement when asked by Sen. Bernie Sanders, an independent from Vermont, about the exchange with Monarez.

"Are you telling us that the former head of CDC, you asked her, 'Are you a trustworthy person?' And she said, 'No, I am not a trustworthy person,'" Sanders asked.

'"She didn't say, 'No, I'm not a trustworthy person.' She said, 'No,'" Kennedy replied.

Sep 04, 2025, 12:21 PM EDT

Sanders suggests he'll call on Susan Monarez to testify before HELP Committee

Bernie Sanders, the independent senator from Vermont, suggested he will bring ousted CDC director Susan Monarez to Capitol Hill to testify.

"I look forward to her coming before the HELP Committee, maybe this committee as well," Sanders said.

Sep 04, 2025, 12:21 PM EDT

Fact check: Current COVID-19 vaccine availability

Kennedy claimed that anyone can get COVID-19 vaccines at their pharmacy for free, however, pharmacies are being selective due to the limbo of federal regulations.

The FDA has approved the updated shots for only older and high-risk Americans, and the CDC vaccine panel is set to meet to discuss potential recommendations in a few weeks.

Amid the regulatory uncertainty, some pharmacies have said that access to the shots may vary state-by-state and may require a prescription.

-ABC News' Youri Benadjaoud

Sep 04, 2025, 12:19 PM EDT

AAP hits back at Kennedy saying the organization is 'gravely conflicted'

The leading medical group representing pediatricians, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), is pushing back on Kennedy saying the organization is "gravely conflicted at their biggest contributors are the four largest vaccine makers."

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr. testifies before the Senate Finance Committee at the Dirksen Senate Office Building, September 4, 2025 in Washington.
Mark Schiefelbein/AP

"Secretary Kennedy's claim that the American Academy of Pediatrics is 'gravely conflicted' is false and misleading. The AAP's financial statements are publicly available for full transparency. Less than 4% of our revenue comes from industry sources," Mark Del Monte, CEO and executive vice president of AAP, said in a statement.

The AAP has a charitable fund known as the "Friends of Children Fund" that pharmaceutical companies have contributed to. They say that 4% of their revenue comes from industry sources.

-ABC News' Youri Benadjaoud

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