Both Republicans and Democrats clash with RFK Jr. on vaccines, CDC turmoil

"We're denying people vaccines," Republican Sen. Bill Cassidy told Kennedy.

Last Updated: September 4, 2025, 5:08 PM EDT

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. faced a grilling before the Senate Finance Committee on Thursday from both Republican and Democratic lawmakers.

Over nearly three hours of questioning, he defended his controversial views on vaccines and the ouster of Susan Monarez as director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Sep 04, 2025, 12:50 PM EDT

RFK Jr. not currently testifying under oath

Ranking member Senator Wyden and committee Chairman Sen. Crapo question Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., as he testifies before a Senate Finance Committee on Capitol Hill in Washington, September 4, 2025.
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Kennedy is currently not testifying under oath after Sen. Crapo denied a request to do so.

At the beginning of the hearing, Sen. Wyden asked that Kennedy be formally sworn in as a witness.

"I will personally object and will reject your request," Crapo said. "We will treat this witness as we treat all of the other administration witnesses who come before us."

Sep 04, 2025, 12:41 PM EDT

Minnesota senator rips Kennedy over school shooting comments

Minnesota Democratic Sen. Tina Smith slammed Kennedy over his comments following last week's deadly school shooting.

During a Fox News interview following the shooting, Kennedy said he was interested in looking at "the potential contribution of some of the SSRI drugs and some of the other psychiatric drugs that might be contributing to violence."

The investigation into the shooting is still ongoing and there is no evidence that SSRI drugs were a factor in the shooting.

"You have no knowledge of that because you have no evidence of a connection," Smith said.

Kennedy claimed that she was making it up.

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., testifies before a Senate Finance Committee hearing on President Donald Trump's 2026 health care agenda, on Capitol Hill in Washington, September 4, 2025.
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Sep 04, 2025, 12:37 PM EDT

Sanders presses Kennedy on his accusations against major medical groups

Sen. Bernie Sanders took aim at Kennedy's statements casting doubt on the integrity of major medical organizations. Kennedy argued they've been corrupted by the pharmaceutical industry.

"You're telling the American people that the American Medical Association, representing hundreds of thousands of people, have been coopted and that they should not trust their doctors? And the American Academy of Pediatrics? And by the way, just for the record, every single Republican -- I don't mean to be political here, Mr. Chairman -- has received PAC money from the pharmaceutical industry. Are they all corrupt as well?" Sanders asked.

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., testifies before a Senate Finance Committee hearing on President Donald Trump's 2026 health care agenda, on Capitol Hill in Washington, September 4, 2025.
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Kennedy doubled down, telling Sanders: "I'm telling you, the American Heart Association has been corrupted by the pharma industry."

Sanders later fired back, "To suggest that every institution, the AMA, the pediatrics people, is 'corrupt' because they disagree is an insult."

Sep 04, 2025, 12:25 PM EDT

Kennedy claims Monarez said she was 'not trustworthy'

In a fiery exchange with Sen. Elizabeth Warren, a Democrat from Massachusetts, Kennedy claimed the recently fired CDC Director Susan Monarez said she was not trustworthy.

Warren pointed to an op-ed Monarez wrote for The Wall Street Journal on Thursday saying she wouldn't prematurely sign off on recommendations from the CDC's vaccine advisory committee.

"I told her that she had to resign because I asked her, 'Are you a trustworthy person?' And she said, 'No,'" Kennedy replied. "If you had an employee who told you they weren't trustworthy, would you ask them to resign, senator?"

Susan Monarez, nominee to be director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, testifies before a Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee confirmation hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington, June 25, 2025.
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Kennedy reiterated the statement when asked by Sen. Bernie Sanders, an independent from Vermont, about the exchange with Monarez.

"Are you telling us that the former head of CDC, you asked her, 'Are you a trustworthy person?' And she said, 'No, I am not a trustworthy person,'" Sanders asked.

'"She didn't say, 'No, I'm not a trustworthy person.' She said, 'No,'" Kennedy replied.

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